Please revamp Dark Auction for Ironman

Spaarc said:
I don't care how it happens. Just something needs to change. It's impossible to keep up with the economy. Make it a set NPC price that we only get 3-4 choices from every DA, or whatever it might be to fix the problem, but holy **** its so frustrating to try and get something only to waste days grinding coins and even longer getting a lobby that doesn't overbid a ridiculous amount. end the suffering please.
And the "they chose ironman argument" sucks here cause yes I did so I didn't have to be in the economy and now a lot of progress is locked behind a hyper inflated economy I can't keep up with. Something needs to change
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in this post they mentioned an ironman only shen auction so i don't see why an ironman only dark auction should be out of the question
 
ProbablyNotAqua said:
making a challenge game mode is not an excuse for inherently bad game design

dark auction as a problem exists for regular profiles to a lesser extent as well
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Agreed. There's a reason other mmos like Runescape don't have "Dark Auctions", let alone having ironman access them. Our ironman problems of keeping up with the economy is unique to skyblock, probably.

Then again, coin sink auctions like DA might just be unique to SB and its economy, the "Lore" too. Can't exactly compare a 24yr old game to it entirely.
Only loosely with some of the "Skill names" , Slayer concept, the ironman mode and dungeons/raids. Stranded isn't a thing elsewhere, bingo is also different.
Certainly you cannot change back to a normal profile from ironman or do a "Hardcore" Ironman like it either, not that I'd want to. Hardcore Bingo maybe, not Ironman if it were added to skyblock.

I've not played runescape or WoW though so I have no idea what else is comparable or similar or if they're even as economy heavy or focused as skyblock.
Skyblock not the "typical" mmorpg vs wynncraft maybe in just Minecraft servers let alone other games.
I guess Skyblock is the "Zoomer Runescape" but in Minecraft if I could compare.

The "normal" AH like grand exchange but we also have the Bazaar which could be unique to SB. Not aware of others that have a similar "bazaar" system in the same way as skyblocks or a stock market.

I liked the approach stranded takes with the dark auction items being obtainable by an alternative such as the villagers for Enchanted emeralds but it would have to be different if such a route was taken for Ironman.

Realistically, the DA will probably stay on Ironman. I'd be down with a seperate DA lobby if it was viable though. Frustrating for both sides, losing to an ironman player or having to overpay a normal profile player.
 
to be fair u can't just remove the ironman part from the discussion since ironman is a thing rn we can't and shouldn't ignore it
so instead of removing the discussion to objectify the problem...the issue becomes this:

"it's bad to a point that even people that choose to play ironman have an hard time w it...imagine the casuals? LOL"

see that's a more "fitting gigachad ironman stanpoint" that would fit their narrative and their made up progression in spite of regular players just flexing on the unicity and special idea behind ironman :3 <3

see ironman kids..i gotcha...all ur special needs are going to be refined in my hands :3 ahahhah
 
my opinion, it would be fair to separate the dark auction for regular profiles and Iron Man profiles. This way, Iron Man profiles wouldn't affect the price increases for regular players. While the idea sounds simple in theory, I understand that the implementation might be more complicated. I believe that creating separate dark auctions for regular players and Iron Man players on Skyblock in Hypixel would improve the experience for everyone involved!!!!!
 
PyroTheZombie said:
@fingernail642 explain to me where im wrong
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because most ironmen werent expecting spirit masks to go from like 50m to 600m (12x price) out of the blue for example

like genuinely are you rage baiting or just a little stupid cause i cant tell nowadays with the "you chose ironman deal with the **** changes that are made way after you started" argument
 
dreamninja124 said:
Not as many would even touch those modes if they remained gems only like Ironman initially was until mid 2021. I know I wouldn't have for the long term if at all.
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It would also be disallowed since it'd cause Ironman/Stranded players to HAVE to pay (or have cookies beforehand) to get further progress.
  • Chili Pepper Collection (You know, the entire collection balanced around buying Inferno Fuel Blocks and doing the current hardest slayer just to get some rare drops enough times to make the thing that you need a LOT of the Slayer-based minion's produce for in order to craft the highest tier of fuel for the Minion to have ONLY 24 HOURS of fuel progress for a chance to get Chili Peppers produced. It's also the requirement for Inferno Vertex/Apex on Ironman.)
  • Abiphone Cases (Gives 12 MP when recombobulated and 1 MP per 2 contacts, gives buffs depending on the type of case)
  • Bits Talisman (Chance for increased Bits, gives 12 MP when recombobulated)
  • Abiphone Contacts Trio (Gives +3 Abiphone Contact slots, up to +36 with all 12 used)
  • Ultimate Carrot Candy Upgrade (Used to get Ultimate Carrot Candy for Maxwell's Abiphone Contact + over 1.6M Pet XP)
  • Builder's Wand (Used to get Builder's Abiphone Contact + is overall very useful for building giant farms or such on Garden)
  • Kat Flower (Used to get Kat's Abiphone Contact + used in Kat to speed up minion rarity upgrades by 24h)
  • Enrichments (buffs to stats applicable to Legendary and Mythic Accessories)
  • God Potion (not a requirement by any means, but still super helpful for some Ironman and possibly Stranded players)
  • Many different Sack items for storing misc things like Dungeon Secrets and Runes
  • Kismet Feather (placebo re-rolls a Dungeon Reward Chest)
 
Spaarc said:
I don't care how it happens. Just something needs to change. It's impossible to keep up with the economy. Make it a set NPC price that we only get 3-4 choices from every DA, or whatever it might be to fix the problem, but holy **** its so frustrating to try and get something only to waste days grinding coins and even longer getting a lobby that doesn't overbid a ridiculous amount. end the suffering please.
And the "they chose ironman argument" sucks here cause yes I did so I didn't have to be in the economy and now a lot of progress is locked behind a hyper inflated economy I can't keep up with. Something needs to change
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or just... dont Balance every mmm around bz

this wild deflation we have rn isnt a universally good thing
 
_Argentius_ said:
my opinion, it would be fair to separate the dark auction for regular profiles and Iron Man profiles. This way, Iron Man profiles wouldn't affect the price increases for regular players. While the idea sounds simple in theory, I understand that the implementation might be more complicated. I believe that creating separate dark auctions for regular players and Iron Man players on Skyblock in Hypixel would improve the experience for everyone involved!!!!!
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I think a big problem with this is that during dead times Ironman will be making a lot less da lobbies, possibly some da's just not having enough ironmans who are going to da to fill 1 lobby

because you gotta remember, most of the high ticket items will be bought by the higher ironman players, and they will probably never touch da after seal. This in turn will;
  • (as already mentined) create a lot less lobbies for ironmen

  • bring the price of 1 time DA items to basically dirt cheap (once a player has a flower minion, they basically have no use for it, same for any accessory, or any other big ticket item)
    • People may say for seal they would buy it, but there is no point to rebuying the big ticket items for ironman, they would (and should) just buy up as many books as they can, because those arent 1 time items, and will need more than 15 of them total
  • Im sure there are more, but im far too lazy to write anymore that didnt immediately come to me off the top of my head
I mean if hypixel wants to make to make the ironman experience easier by giving them special treatment then sure, but i feel like thats against the whole essence of the gamemode

idk I think the DA system is just terrible and needs to change, regardless of version
 
Zedroid said:
I think a big problem with this is that during dead times Ironman will be making a lot less da lobbies, possibly some da's just not having enough ironmans who are going to da to fill 1 lobby

because you gotta remember, most of the high ticket items will be bought by the higher ironman players, and they will probably never touch da after seal. This in turn will;
  • (as already mentined) create a lot less lobbies for ironmen

  • bring the price of 1 time DA items to basically dirt cheap (once a player has a flower minion, they basically have no use for it, same for any accessory, or any other big ticket item)
    • People may say for seal they would buy it, but there is no point to rebuying the big ticket items for ironman, they would (and should) just buy up as many books as they can, because those arent 1 time items, and will need more than 15 of them total
  • Im sure there are more, but im far too lazy to write anymore that didnt immediately come to me off the top of my head
I mean if hypixel wants to make to make the ironman experience easier by giving them special treatment then sure, but i feel like thats against the whole essence of the gamemode

idk I think the DA system is just terrible and needs to change, regardless of version
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thats why i think a set npc wouldnt be a horrible idea, would stop items from going to low but also give a set amount you have to grind for which is like the thing ironman does best and i enjoy the most about ironman, knowing exactly what i have to do just a matter of time before I finish it. but i agree with everyone else that an dark auction revamp would also be a good idea instead of just revamping it for one type of profile
 
Spaarc said:
thats why i think a set npc wouldnt be a horrible idea, would stop items from going to low but also give a set amount you have to grind for which is like the thing ironman does best and i enjoy the most about ironman, knowing exactly what i have to do just a matter of time before I finish it.
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my problem with this is that I guarantee items are gonna be way to cheap or way too expensive if the admins set an npc price. They will probably never find a number that all players are happy with, especially with the 'giving ironman special treatment' arguments, as it would make it WAYYY more accessible for ironman players, as even if there were only like the 4 items per night, every player can buy those items, instead of making it 4 per lobby, its 4 per player


idk, ironman sucks for DA but i mean in the end it sucks for everyone, and i dont see any ironman specific changes that most of the playerbase would be happy with
 
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