Potential Trophy Point Adjustments

[Hypixel Team]

Hello everyone,

Thank you for taking the time to share your ideas and feedback on the Rework Forum Trophy Points suggestion thread. After reviewing the recent feedback on the thread, we are looking into modifying the highest-tier trophy points to align better with the community's expectations as well as make them more feasible to obtain for Forum users who did not have the opportunity to gain post count from Forum Games. The trophies being adjusted are as follows:

Trophy	Current Requirement	Adjusted Requirement
Too many posts...	50,000 messages	30,000 messages
How far can you go??!?	70,000 reactions	50,000 reactions
Extreme Dedication	25,000 messages	15,000 messages
It counts as a hobby, right?	35,000 reactions	25,000 reactions

These changes would apply retroactively to all users, meaning anyone who meets the newly adjusted thresholds would receive the respective trophies upon implementation. This would result in a few dozen users also receiving title bumps as part of this change, including one bump to Forum Legend. The thresholds, obviously inspired by the suggestion thread, were also compared against metrics on current top Forum users as well as users who joined more recently. With this, these adjustments are being designed with longevity in mind as we are hoping to not need to modify them again in the upcoming years.

We wanted to provide a centralized thread for discussion as we recognize that some players shared concerns regarding title bumps and the proposed trophy points. Additionally, we also wanted to provide a notice of this new consideration since we recognize many players aim to acquire maximum trophy points and this will be a sizable change to any goals made. As always, we would love to hear any questions, concerns, or feedback here!

 

[Canadienne]

I can't believe that actually worked

Edit: I figure I should at least talk about my experience as the person with the second most reactions received lol

I joined forums in 2016. In 2018, I gave out my 100,000th like reaction. In 2019, I reached 70,000 reactions received. During this time, I would regularly receive thousands of reactions in a day, peaking at ~6,200 in 24 hours. Based on the 3 year account trophy and the 70,000 reaction trophy, I feel that I at least had some influence on the initial decision to make these trophies.

I passed Simon in reactions sometime in 2021 (I believe) and was first on the leaderboard for a bit. In 2022, Simon gained ~4000 reactions, passing me. Now, in 2025, the gap between us is just under 2000. It has taken years for me to achieve what used to be possible overnight.

My history of reactions hopefully makes it clear just how outdated these trophies are. I've always thought it strange that reaction limits were added despite the existence of a trophy that is only reasonably achievable through reaction spam.

 

[GeorgeDeSanta]

I guess i got a long way to go

 

[thoughtcrime]

oh wow thats awesome

 

[7xr]

awesome cool very cool actually

 

[ZombieWither]

Oh wow, these goals are way more realistic and makes getting Veteran far easier, nice

 

[mimey]

15,000 messages

wait holy ****

i might actually get veteran in like 3 months

thats epic

including one bump to Forum Legend

GGS MREEVEE

 

[-JeffTheDuck-]

seems like some good changes! i approve.

 

[lopen]

Hmmm that's a nice change, did not expect that in the slightest after the whole debacle with the solution-trophies. Very nice changes. Only 400 messages away from that 15k, might need to become a little more active ha

 

[namlaE]

fine with me

 

[MrEevee7]

Heya. Appreciate you guys taking the time to make this thread and reach out to the community before making any final changes.

Despite my past statements about the current state of the trophies and how I believe they are far too difficult to achieve, I would not support this change in its proposed state.

Spoiler: Messages Trophy

Let's start with the messages trophy. 30,000 messages is too low in my opinion. I understand that my perspective on this particular trophy is at the very least slightly skewed due to the fact that I have the most messages on the entire website, but I still want to share why this feels too low for me.
This year, I gave myself the goal to achieve the rank of forum legend. As a part of that process I have been making a decent number of posts every day in order to reach the required positive threshold. I will not deny that it is difficult for users to gain high numbers of messages in the current state of the forums, especially if the person in question lacks knowledge in skyblock.
However, even without replying to the skyblock forums, I do not believe it is too difficult to post at least 30 or 40 times a day. I've personally been doing 25 with the help of the skyblock forums, but that only takes about 30 or so minutes. Without the skyblock section I could easily see it taking twice as long, but still achievable. This would give a time of around 1.5 hours for 30 - 40 messages. As it stands, I believe 40,000 messages would be a more sensible number for the messages trophy. Still very hard, but achievable. It would also resolve the issue of retroactively granting the trophy to 6 (nearly 7) people and instead only give it to one, which is preferable in my eyes as we should try to minimize the number of people retroactively achieving trophies.

Spoiler: Reactions Trophy

That brings me to the positives trophy. A more difficult topic considering this one affects me a lot more. I will preface this by saying that I do not believe 70,000 positive ratings is a reasonable goal for a new user in the current state of the forums. The introduction of per user and inter-user limits to positive ratings has made this the case. It would be much more preferable in my opinion if these limits were to be abolished and the trophy kept as is. I understand that this is not likely for moderation reasons but this is my current stance on the trophy.
In terms of discussing the actual number proposed, it's difficult to say how I feel. On the one hand, I am of the belief that 50,000 positive reactions is much more reasonable than 70,000 and an actually fine number to change the trophy to if these changes were to go through.
Despite this, I do not care for the idea of retroactively being granted the rank of forum legend. I am not generally against the idea of handouts, but when it comes to a personal achievement such as this, I feel as if it would just be... deflating? to receive it via handout. For this reason I personally am against any change at all concerning the 70,000 positive ratings trophy.

I want to be clear though: on an objective basis I do not think there is anything wrong with the proposed change to the positive ratings trophy. It is only in terms of how it personally affects me that I am opposed to it. As for the posts trophy, I think 30,000 is just too low. As stated before a 1.5 hour time commitment to the forums on a daily basis would easily get someone this trophy in under 1,000 days which I think is just too easy.

I do have an idea though as to how we can make the ranks (at least, the ranks below legend) more achievable. I agree with most people's sentiments on this. All of the highest ranks are too hard to achieve (including legend). But since I do not want to have legend given to me retroactively I'd prefer if that one remains untouched for now. Because of this, I have an alternate proposal which does not include lowering any of the current requirements, but instead adds new trophies which help achieve some of the lower ranks (e.g. expert / professional) while raising the required trophy point total for forum legend.

Spoiler: Alternate Solution

I think adding more trophy points in between the current maximum and the ones that precede it would be the best solution in this case. The fact that you have to literally double your message / positive ratings count from the 25,000 to 50,000 and the 35,000 to 70,000 trophies respectively is a little absurd in my eyes. Adding something like a 37,500 message trophy and a 50,000 positive rating trophy on top of the existing trophies would be better than the proposed changes in my opinion.

Alternatively, if we really don't want to add extra message / reaction trophies, we could add more trophies that involve interacting with other aspects of the forums. For example maybe a positive ratings given trophy, since there is currently no incentive to even interact with that system other than hoping that someone will return the favor and give you a positive in return.

Overall I wanna reiterate that I am not totally against the proposed idea but find it extremely preferable if we would avoid retroactively granting users trophies as best we can, mostly for personal reasons but I know some other people like @namlaE have the same concerns in that regard as I do. The new trophies I proposed would help mitigate this issue while still making ranks like veteran and expert much more fair to achieve.

This ended up being a lot more than I expected to write about this so I do appreciate anyone who read it through all the way. It's probably better put in a separate thread but since we're discussing it here anyway I'd be curious what people think of my alternate proposal as a different solution to this problem that does its best to avoid retroactive granting of new titles.

 

[namlaE]

(edit: apparently not lol)

fine with me as in the numbers specifically chosen! personally I’m still not a fan of changing these trophies currently

the best way to describe it is, I want them to feel like I worked toward them, not that it was given to me. I’m fine with adding new trophies but not reducing older ones

 

[BLORP]

Heya. Appreciate you guys taking the time to make this thread and reach out to the community before making any final changes.

Despite my past statements about the current state of the trophies and how I believe they are far too difficult to achieve, I would not support this change in its proposed state.

Spoiler: Messages Trophy

Let's start with the messages trophy. 30,000 messages is too low in my opinion. I understand that my perspective on this particular trophy is at the very least slightly skewed due to the fact that I have the most messages on the entire website, but I still want to share why this feels too low for me.
This year, I gave myself the goal to achieve the rank of forum legend. As a part of that process I have been making a decent number of posts every day in order to reach the required positive threshold. I will not deny that it is difficult for users to gain high numbers of messages in the current state of the forums, especially if the person in question lacks knowledge in skyblock.
However, even without replying to the skyblock forums, I do not believe it is too difficult to post at least 30 or 40 times a day. I've personally been doing 25 with the help of the skyblock forums, but that only takes about 30 or so minutes. Without the skyblock section I could easily see it taking twice as long, but still achievable. This would give a time of around 1.5 hours for 30 - 40 messages. As it stands, I believe 40,000 messages would be a more sensible number for the messages trophy. Still very hard, but achievable. It would also resolve the issue of retroactively granting the trophy to 6 (nearly 7) people and instead only give it to one, which is preferable in my eyes as we should try to minimize the number of people retroactively achieving trophies.

Spoiler: Reactions Trophy

That brings me to the positives trophy. A more difficult topic considering this one affects me a lot more. I will preface this by saying that I do not believe 70,000 positive ratings is a reasonable goal for a new user in the current state of the forums. The introduction of per user and inter-user limits to positive ratings has made this the case. It would be much more preferable in my opinion if these limits were to be abolished and the trophy kept as is. I understand that this is not likely for moderation reasons but this is my current stance on the trophy.
In terms of discussing the actual number proposed, it's difficult to say how I feel. On the one hand, I am of the belief that 50,000 positive reactions is much more reasonable than 70,000 and an actually fine number to change the trophy to if these changes were to go through.
Despite this, I do not care for the idea of retroactively being granted the rank of forum legend. I am not generally against the idea of handouts, but when it comes to a personal achievement such as this, I feel as if it would just be... deflating? to receive it via handout. For this reason I personally am against any change at all concerning the 70,000 positive ratings trophy.

I want to be clear though: on an objective basis I do not think there is anything wrong with the proposed change to the positive ratings trophy. It is only in terms of how it personally affects me that I am opposed to it. As for the posts trophy, I think 30,000 is just too low. As stated before a 1.5 hour time commitment to the forums on a daily basis would easily get someone this trophy in under 1,000 days which I think is just too easy.

I do have an idea though as to how we can make the ranks (at least, the ranks below legend) more achievable. I agree with most people's sentiments on this. All of the highest ranks are too hard to achieve (including legend). But since I do not want to have legend given to me retroactively I'd prefer if that one remains untouched for now. Because of this, I have an alternate proposal which does not include lowering any of the current requirements, but instead adds new trophies which help achieve some of the lower ranks (e.g. expert / professional) while raising the required trophy point total for forum legend.

Spoiler: Alternate Solution

I think adding more trophy points in between the current maximum and the ones that precede it would be the best solution in this case. The fact that you have to literally double your message / positive ratings count from the 25,000 to 50,000 and the 35,000 to 70,000 trophies respectively is a little absurd in my eyes. Adding something like a 37,500 message trophy and a 50,000 positive rating trophy on top of the existing trophies would be better than the proposed changes in my opinion.

Alternatively, if we really don't want to add extra message / reaction trophies, we could add more trophies that involve interacting with other aspects of the forums. For example maybe a positive ratings given trophy, since there is currently no incentive to even interact with that system other than hoping that someone will return the favor and give you a positive in return.

Overall I wanna reiterate that I am not totally against the proposed idea but find it extremely preferable if we would avoid retroactively granting users trophies as best we can, mostly for personal reasons but I know some other people like @namlaE (edit: apparently not lol) have the same concerns in that regard as I do. The new trophies I proposed would help mitigate this issue while still making ranks like veteran and expert much more fair to achieve.

This ended up being a lot more than I expected to write about this so I do appreciate anyone who read it through all the way. It's probably better put in a separate thread but since we're discussing it here anyway I'd be curious what people think of my alternate proposal as a different solution to this problem that does its best to avoid retroactive granting of new titles.

I’d say 40,000 is too high considering I use the forums a lot each day and yet after 2 years I’m only on 6k messages

Sure a good bit of my activity is profile posts and forum games but I’d say I average about 30 posts a day (if I’m active, which sometimes I’m not) while spending several hours browsing.

At my current rate of ~3k a year, it would still take me 8 more years to get 30k let alone 40k lmao

Note: these are very quick estimations since I’m kinda exhausted, just got home to see this and didn’t want to wait before replying lol



Sure there are fastest posters than me, I’m quite conservative with when I post at times as I don’t like to talk on topics I don’t feel I understand but I think the posts trophies shouldn’t be so high as to encourage a higher frequency of lower quality posts.

Still you do have valid points and perhaps 30,000 is too low, what would your opinion on 35,000 be?

Edit: just to be clear, I still think 30,000 is the best choice but I would happily accept 35,000 and would only start to be disappointed if it got any higher.


Oh and whatever happens we’re still getting you to 70k aren’t we @ZombieWither?

 

[MrEevee7]

I’d say 40,000 is too high considering I use the forums a lot each day and yet after 2 years I’m only on 6k messages

Sure a good bit of my activity is profile posts and forum games but I’d say I average about 30 posts a day (if I’m active, which sometimes I’m not) while spending several hours browsing.

At my current rate of ~3k a year, it would still take me 8 more years to get 30k let alone 40k lmao

Note: these are very quick estimations since I’m kinda exhausted, just got home to see this and didn’t want to wait before replying lol



Sure there are fastest posters than me, I’m quite conservative with when I post at times as I don’t like to talk on topics I don’t feel I understand but I think the posts trophies shouldn’t be so high as to encourage a higher frequency of lower quality posts.

Still you do have valid points and perhaps 30,000 is too low, what would your opinion on 35,000 be?

After discussing it a bit with ZW in ct1m i think i underestimated how much the skyblock forums contribute to my daily post total. 35,000 is probably a bit more reasonable yeah

Oh and whatever happens we’re still getting you to 70k aren’t we @ZombieWither?

Appreciate it. I definitely dont have any plans to give up on 70k regardless of whether the changes are added

 

[ZombieWither]

I’d say 40,000 is too high considering I use the forums a lot each day and yet after 2 years I’m only on 6k messages

Sure a good bit of my activity is profile posts and forum games but I’d say I average about 30 posts a day (if I’m active, which sometimes I’m not) while spending several hours browsing.

At my current rate of ~3k a year, it would still take me 8 more years to get 30k let alone 40k lmao

Sure there are fastest posters than me, I’m quite conservative with when I post at times as I don’t like to talk on topics I don’t feel I understand but I think the posts trophies shouldn’t be so high as to encourage a higher frequency of lower quality posts.

Still you do have valid points and perhaps 30,000 is too low, what would your opinion on 35,000 be?


Oh and whatever happens we’re still getting you to 70k aren’t we @ZombieWither?

Ofc we will make sure he gets to 70k

Also will clarify my position more:

Tbf 30k seems slightly low but anything above 40k is too high imo (and this is coming from a person who postfarms to some extent) so maybe around 35k? And I guess the 25k -> 15k trophy can be slightly shifted to account for that

Any reduction of positives will be extremely welcomed, although I must say it would be really demotivating for Eevee to spend all that effort for legend only to get it retroactively

Now on the topic of the proposed alternate solution:

I think adding more trophy points in between the current maximum and the ones that precede it would be the best solution in this case. The fact that you have to literally double your message / positive ratings count from the 25,000 to 50,000 and the 35,000 to 70,000 trophies respectively is a little absurd in my eyes. Adding something like a 37,500 message trophy and a 50,000 positive rating trophy on top of the existing trophies would be better than the proposed changes in my opinion.

Alternatively, if we really don't want to add extra message / reaction trophies, we could add more trophies that involve interacting with other aspects of the forums. For example maybe a positive ratings given trophy, since there is currently no incentive to even interact with that system other than hoping that someone will return the favor and give you a positive in return.

Would support having more in-between trophies, that should make getting Veteran/Professional somewhat easier

If this were to be added, I would also support adding new trophies between 9k~25k posts and 10k~35k positives

 

[BLORP]

Anyway one idea that’s been thrown about by a couple of people (including me) is the idea of “legacy trophies” which is to keep trophies at the older milestones (25k and 50k posts, 35k and 70k positives) worth 0 trophy points.

These trophies would still be unlockable but have no affect on title progress.

This way people who are at or already close to the older milestones would still be able to unlock them and have recognition of the fact they got these harder, older versions of the trophies.

This would be added in addition to the new trophies with lower requirements, that give the trophy points.

I’ll throw this idea out here one last time and see what (if anything lol) people think of it

 

[Ender-Dragon]

Trophy	Current Requirement	Adjusted Requirement
Too many posts...	50,000 messages	30,000 messages
How far can you go??!?	70,000 reactions	50,000 reactions
Extreme Dedication	25,000 messages	15,000 messages
It counts as a hobby, right?	35,000 reactions	25,000 reactions

oh wow
i might actually be able to get veteran
(although, in the long term, these are a bit high as the forums are going to continue to decline)

 

[WynnicWither]

oh wow
i might actually be able to get veteran
(although, in the long term, these are a bit high as the forums are going to continue to decline)

Forum Nerd will still be extremely hard for me...

At my current pace, at least a year and a half is left

 

[MrEevee7]

Would support having more in-between trophies, that should make getting Veteran/Professional somewhat easier

If this were to be added, I would also support adding new trophies between 9k~25k posts and 10k~35k positives

Yeah i mean definitely if they added my idea thered need to be trophies in those ranges too

Anyway one idea that’s been thrown about by a couple of people (including me) is the idea of “legacy trophies” which is to keep trophies at the older milestones (25k and 50k posts, 35k and 70k positives) worth 0 trophy points.

These trophies would still be unlockable but have no affect on title progress.

This way people who are at or already close to the older milestones would still be able to unlock them and have recognition of the fact they got these harder, older versions of the trophies.

This would be added in addition to the new trophies with lower requirements, that give the trophy points.

I’ll throw this idea out here one last time and see what (if anything lol) people think of it

This would be nice to be added if they did go through with the proposed changes yeah

 

[epicercaner]

good change, forum deflation is finally happening, the economy will stabilize

I can't believe that actually worked

peer pressure actually worked for once crazy