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So, I normally don't talk on the forums, but I have no other place to vent my feelings about the changes to bobbin time. For some background about me, I'm an ironman player who has fished a lot and since the bayou update, so I do have my fair share of experience with the new update and the changes its made.
Personally I already have bobbin time, and if we forget about the recipe its probably one of the best ultimate enchants in the game. (over a 20% stat buff in a full party of 6 with a max of 36% at 10 ppl) So now you might ask, "if the enchant is so good where is the issue with it and shouldn't it be super expensive to compensate," well... yes I agree. For a normal profile I think the crafting recipe is perfectly fine, and I have no issues with the recipes for the specific orbs themselves; they SHOULD be expensive. The MAIN issue with the crafting recipe isnt the hotspot orb or the bayou orb or some special orb; its the water orb. Specifically the Pufferfish in the water orb.
For each water orb you need 16 enchanted pufferfish and for each bobbin time you need 6 water orbs; a total of 96 enchanted pufferfish. Looking at baazar prices this doesn't seem like a lot, but on ironman this is pain. Since you can no longer buy fish from npc you have to MANUALLY fish for this pufferfish. To put into context how difficult it is to get full bobbin time 5 now, through almost 100 hrs of bayou fishing I've gotten enough pufferfish for only 3 bobbin time books. This means I would have to do over 600 more hours of fishing to get another set of full bobbin time 5. The kicker is that I can make another set of full bobbin time 5 in under 10 hrs (I haven't touched junk fishing yet) if it weren't for the pufferfish.
Although all of this sounds terrible, fishing minions are a good alternative, but even those take a long time to make bobbin time. My t12 minion produces around 3 enchanted pufferfish per day, but with a t7 minion you only get 1.2 enchanted pufferfish per day. This means with 30 minions all at t7, it takes 2-3 days to make 1 bobbin time, almost 2 months of having full fishing minions down. (You can use hyper catalysts during a derpy if you have those and it should only take 2 derpys) But the issue with ironman is that there are many other things to prioritize with minions other than bobbin time, so by the time you are trying to go for bobbin time you are almost endgame and pretty much full max. Honestly though, if you want bobbin time... minions are the best way.
TLDR; bobbin time is now very hard to get on ironman (unless you wanna do over 600 hours of fishing or full max everything before getting bobbin time)
simple fix would be to add more sources of pufferfish (only comes from titanoboa and catfish rn iirc)
Personally I already have bobbin time, and if we forget about the recipe its probably one of the best ultimate enchants in the game. (over a 20% stat buff in a full party of 6 with a max of 36% at 10 ppl) So now you might ask, "if the enchant is so good where is the issue with it and shouldn't it be super expensive to compensate," well... yes I agree. For a normal profile I think the crafting recipe is perfectly fine, and I have no issues with the recipes for the specific orbs themselves; they SHOULD be expensive. The MAIN issue with the crafting recipe isnt the hotspot orb or the bayou orb or some special orb; its the water orb. Specifically the Pufferfish in the water orb.
For each water orb you need 16 enchanted pufferfish and for each bobbin time you need 6 water orbs; a total of 96 enchanted pufferfish. Looking at baazar prices this doesn't seem like a lot, but on ironman this is pain. Since you can no longer buy fish from npc you have to MANUALLY fish for this pufferfish. To put into context how difficult it is to get full bobbin time 5 now, through almost 100 hrs of bayou fishing I've gotten enough pufferfish for only 3 bobbin time books. This means I would have to do over 600 more hours of fishing to get another set of full bobbin time 5. The kicker is that I can make another set of full bobbin time 5 in under 10 hrs (I haven't touched junk fishing yet) if it weren't for the pufferfish.
Although all of this sounds terrible, fishing minions are a good alternative, but even those take a long time to make bobbin time. My t12 minion produces around 3 enchanted pufferfish per day, but with a t7 minion you only get 1.2 enchanted pufferfish per day. This means with 30 minions all at t7, it takes 2-3 days to make 1 bobbin time, almost 2 months of having full fishing minions down. (You can use hyper catalysts during a derpy if you have those and it should only take 2 derpys) But the issue with ironman is that there are many other things to prioritize with minions other than bobbin time, so by the time you are trying to go for bobbin time you are almost endgame and pretty much full max. Honestly though, if you want bobbin time... minions are the best way.
TLDR; bobbin time is now very hard to get on ironman (unless you wanna do over 600 hours of fishing or full max everything before getting bobbin time)
simple fix would be to add more sources of pufferfish (only comes from titanoboa and catfish rn iirc)
