1. Hey everyone, now that it has been a while since phoenix received its significant nerf to its supportive role here, the meta should be stable enough to create a new balance proposal for the game. But we also believe that some of the complaints regarding classes before were not necessarily due to their individual power, but how they matched when synergized with Phoenix's supportive role. In turn, we feel that the best course of action is to poll the community to see what their viewpoints are regarding the current meta of the game.

    Please click here if you want to voice your opinion through this community poll.

    (Note: You require a Google Account to access the poll)


    We will be keeping this poll up for 7 days, and then we will be using those results to create a balance proposal. From there, we will make a followup thread to see how the community reacts to the proposal, and see if any other edits should be included.

    Take care!

    -The HPC
     
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  2. Sagev

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    that's epic
     
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  3. Noel

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    Thanks
     
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  4. ImWolf85

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    What people play =/= Balanced or not
     
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    ok now this is epic
     
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  6. Thanks Piano and secret HPC members!

    epic gamer moment
     
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  7. filoof

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    also i voted now this is even more epic 8) epic gamer moments
     
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    no, epic gamer moment. disgusting
     
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  9. Aguero

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    Remove phx
     
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  10. I really like the idea with the pool so nobody can complain
     
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  11. Someone submitted that skeleton is stronger than WW lol
     
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  12. Lol where my detonate overlap at
     
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  13. lel nice

    below i dropped my tiered opinion of the current situation of the classes, JUST AN OPINION
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    Dreadlord, Phoenix.
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    Arcanist, Shaman, Herobrine, Spider, Werewolf, Golem, Blaze, Pigman.
    B
    Enderman, Skeleton, Snowman, Zombie, Creeper.
    C
    Shark, Pirate, Moleman, Squid.
    D
    Renegade, Hunter, Assassin.
    E
    Automaton, Cow.
     
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  14. Sorry, fixed it for you :( Don't beat me
     
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  15. creeper is below average
     
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  16. Will there be more detailed votes about specific classes where you can vote for different options? I don't think small statistic changes would be enough this time since shark and automaton need a lot different changes than that (a pulling ability for shark for example which pulls enemy into middle of your waterpool and a regen passive after using the ability) and there could be quite a few ways to deal with really strong classes such as phoenix.

    Other than that the poll shows which classes are seen as too strong which is actually quite cool in my opinion since you can see the public opinion in a very structured form but the problem is that the poll doesn't show which aspect of a class is too strong, you need the players' opinion for that. Let's take Shaman as an example:
    According to the community it's a above average to very strong class. The easiest way to nerf it would be to reduce the EPS or the Speed but we've basically had that before the reclaim update with the Tornado being mroe effective. This wouldn't fix the problem though since I've pretty much only seen complaints about the wolves being too strong (which I definitely agree with). Barely anyone complained about shaman being a more versatile and allrounding/mobile class apart from just a few complaints about the speeds' duration. Nerfing the wolf pack probably wouldn't be the first pick of a HPC member since the wolves had just received a huge buff in the prior balancing and thats quite understandable.

    Another part which isn't that easy to figure out through these polls are the consequences of a META. One of the main reasons why shaman or spider are strong is that phoenix is currently by far the best kit in the game and it combines really really well with both these already strong and much used classes.

    Anyways I really like that the idea of a anonymous poll, but with published results :)
     
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  17. Aguero

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    Tbh, for me, skele is stronger than ww.
     
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  18. There is some extra information that is private which will be used, and class synergy / meta consequences will be kept in mind. Class specific polling might be a possibility, but that has its own issues as well. People might blame an entire class as overpowered when only certain aspects are to blame, or people could put in input regarding something that they have no knowledge of, because they don't play the class. The more likely scenario will probably be the observation of feedback from the forums to get a general consensus of why something is overpowered, make a proposal based on that feedback, and continue that loop until a proposal is made which a strong majority support.
     
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    Please fix assassin skill bugs and give it protection I or protection II
     
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